Chinese Traditional Medicine - a science? NOWAY

<>这是中国人写出来的???

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中医在韩国被称为"汉方",也有韩国人推崇.在印度有印度草药,类似中医.[em01]

<>一句名言：西医让人明明白白的死，中医让人糊糊涂涂的活。

<>大家是选择死呢？还是活呢？

声明：我是先学的西医，后来又学的中医。

<>Western medicine is an honest science, although it also failed on curing most of the disease, it admits the fact that there no cure for the time being. Western medicine will tell the patient honestly what the side effect will be, and what is contained in the pill. In western countries, only those received systemetic training in medicine and passed a very selective test can be a doctor. Although this doesn't mean the doctor is a great doctor.

<>Chinese traditional medicine, on the contrary, qualifies anyone to be a "doctor". People with no systemetic education in medicine will claim themselves "doctor" only because his father or grandfather claims themselves to be "doctor". Some people will claim their medicine "passed down from the ancestry" or "medicine of mother country" only to cheat people with poor knowledge about health. Because in China, if anyone dares to question anything passed down from ancestry or anything carries the name of mother country, he is going to be punished, loooked down upon, and thrown a name of betrayer.

<>Many so-called Chinese traditional medical "doctors", has knowingly or unknowingly damaged many patients' health, or even killed them. By reading the post on this forum, I know many patients are still living in dark age. And the bubble of my hope of resorting to Chinese traditional medicine to help on psoriasis bursted! There are simply too many sly "doctors" in China, for a small amount of money, some people could cheat by hurting others health. Yet there does not seem to be any lawful actions being taken against these sly cheaters.  

不知道楼主自己怎么想的，个人还是比较支持中医，起码没有那么多激素

<>Western medicine is an honest science, although it also failed on curing most of the disease, it admits the fact that there no cure for the time being. Western medicine will tell the patient honestly what the side effect will be, and what is contained in the pill. In western countries, only those received systemetic training in medicine and passed a very selective test can be a doctor. Although this doesn't mean the doctor is a great doctor.

<>Chinese traditional medicine, on the contrary, qualifies anyone to be a "doctor". People with no systemetic education in medicine will claim themselves "doctor" only because his father or grandfather claims themselves to be "doctor". Some people will claim their medicine "passed down from the ancestry" or "medicine of mother country" only to cheat people with poor knowledge about health. Because in China, if anyone dares to question anything passed down from ancestry or anything carries the name of mother country, he is going to be punished, loooked down upon, and thrown a name of betrayer.

<>Many so-called Chinese traditional medical "doctors", has knowingly or unknowingly damaged many patients' health, or even killed them. By reading the post on this forum, I know many patients are still living in dark age. And the bubble of my hope of resorting to Chinese traditional medicine to help on psoriasis bursted! There are simply too many sly "doctors" in China, for a small amount of money, some people could cheat by hurting others health. Yet there does not seem to be any lawful actions being taken against these sly cheaters.  

<>Demark,你在自由美国,我明白你的视野比我们国内的P友都更宽广,更清楚.我也总在想,到底是西医好呢还是中医好?一般来说,人们都认为西医是一门科学,讲究确定性;中医是一门模糊的学问,甚至根本谈不上科学,因为它充满了不确定性.我想说的是,最伟大的科学家或哲学家他们真的能够分清科学的界限到底在哪吗?事实上,我从不认为中医是一门科学.当然,这并不表示我在贬低它.我认为科学它成为更多人的共识,是作为一种"话语霸权".西医是科学,中医并不是科学.但是因为科学已经成为"话语霸权",所以一切的"合法性"都要以科学为准.所以,中医西化就是为了中医能够取得合法性.你认为当下中国的中医还是传统的中医吗?我认为科学并不就是世界.所以,我认为作为科学的西医和中国的中医可以并存在这个世界上,当然我所说的中医并不是指为了合法化而西化的中医.时下中国的那些中医们害人无数,中国的病人仍然生活在黑暗之中,其实在中国深受西医所害的恐怕也不少吧.这不单是中医西医的问题,更多的是中国本身制度问题.医疗不单单是医学的问题,还关系到医疗制度,法治,医疗资讯自由开放甚至政治体制.在美国,医生会很清楚告诉病人药的副作用;但是在中国,没有医生会主动这样做的.在美国,假药毒药的存在会有多大的空间呢?在美国,虚假医药广告的存在会有多大的空间呢?在美国,病人得到的医疗资讯会有多大的自由和开放呢?在美国如果民众也仍然象中国的病人们生活在黑暗中,美国的政府还会继续在台上吗?所以,广义来说,中国的西医跟美国的西医是两个完全不同的概念.Demark,我在资讯和思想都受控制的中国,我无法肯定我是否拥有自由意志,我所说的仅仅是我认为的,见笑!

<>To:Demark               On24Aug

<>I agree with you 30%, but not agree with you 70%.
I do not approve of your viewpoint, the reason is your talk point some unclear, what you say is in become drugs, not is our square Chinese medicine for that saying.
The means of the doctor is to cures the acute disease, the Chinese medicine is to adjusts the body, exactly each has his own strong point.
For example: psoriasi .

1.The treatment result of the doctor is quick, but the  method is also quick, few recover from illness a year above.

2.The treatment result of the Chinese medicine is slow, but the score that come out usually recovers from illness 2-3 yearses above.

3.Be much more than only Hong Kong now, even Euro-American place, also promote to cure in western medicine, therefore my different idea your viewpoint.

<>4.Chinese medical skill contain several thousand years history, recent years also containing foreign doctor to join the research, therefore must not overthrow the technique of the Chinese medicine completely.

<>結語:所以中醫和中藥自有它的存在價值。尤其現在外國正提倡「中、西醫結合治療」,這是不爭的事實啊

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<>To:Demark          On24Aug

<>I agree with you 30%, but not agree with you 70%.

<>I do not approve of your viewpoint, the reason is your talk point some unclear, what you say is in become drugs, not is our square Chinese medicine for that saying.
The means of the doctor is to cures the acute disease, the Chinese medicine is to adjusts the body, exactly each has his own strong point.
For example: psoriasi .

<>1.  The treatment result of the doctor is quick, but the  method is also quick, few recover from illness a year above.

2.The treatment result of the Chinese medicine is slow, but the score that come out usually recovers from illness 2-3 yearses above.

3.Be much more than only Hong Kong now, even Euro-American place, also promote to cure in western medicine, therefore my different idea your viewpoint.

4.Chinese medical skill contain several thousand years history, recent years also containing foreign doctor to join the research, therefore must not overthrow the technique of the Chinese medicine completely.

<>結語:中醫和中藥是也有它存在價值的,現在,很多外國的國家,正積極「提倡中西醫結合治療」,這是不爭事實啊。

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