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美国银屑病论坛和互助论坛的天壤之别

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41#
蝴蝶菲飞 发表于 2009-4-5 20:57:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用[I]椰子壳[/I]在2009-4-4 17:05:00的发言:[BR] 引用楼主demark 在:http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.phpp=418920&posted=1#post418920  的一段话。。。。。             you have missed my point completely unfortunately. If you can read Chinese, please go to www.yxb365.com/bbs for my attitude toward Chinese Traditional Medicine. To be clear here, I think Chinese Traditional Medicine are completely nonsense, (how about that single broad brush), they are intentionally cheating or unwittingly ruin/messing with patients, far worse than western medicine.Western medicine however, is more advanced than Chinese traditional medicine, but still in stone age, not as advanced as they had painted. Therefore, the best attitude is to humble ourselves and admit we do not know too much about ourselves, about Psoriasis. We, as the patients, should collect large amount of data and research on those. Since we can not get answer about symptoms, side effects, natural patterns of psoriasis from those experts.I am so disappointed my point is not conveyed clear to people here. Some even think I am here to debate for Chinese traditional medicine. I have stated many times that I am only enduring, I use a little bit Dovonex, that's it. I would not recmmend actually I fiercely oppose people use Chinese herbal medicine to treat Psoriasis. What a joke. 各位从中可以了解一下该中国人demark在美国 银屑病网站上所表现的观点和立场。。。
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-4-5 8:27:52编辑过]
是不是有些崇洋媚外了,看起来是不赞同我们论坛上的许多观点啊,不过看此人在论坛发的帖子又好象挺多,不解.不过咱是中国人,不是老美,也不是大款.也不会象老美那样便爱激素.谁爱用谁用.至少我还是认可我们中医学说的.
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KARE 发表于 2009-4-6 15:42:00 | 只看该作者
[BR]我宁可是中梅毒,(但绝对不要越南梅毒,)也不要P. 因西医对病毒的研究已达到其传染方式,预防与治疗。
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幸运得P 发表于 2009-4-6 16:43:00 | 只看该作者
也不能怪医生的,因为那P长到包皮上了。
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shenying127 发表于 2009-4-6 18:09:00 | 只看该作者
我也有过这样的啊,医生怀疑是梅毒。现在想来梅毒还好了
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水精灵 发表于 2009-4-6 23:11:00 | 只看该作者
问好5楼:
是你长P,还是医生长?
是你吃药还是医生吃?
谁的身体谁做主!医生充其量是个参谋.在你与P博亦时,输赢都是你的事,与医生关系不大.
原子弹是西人搞的,用在战争时的威力令世界人民害怕!
西药也是西人搞的,它害人的威力正在全球显现.
我们不能为治表皮搭进我们的肝肾,请你好好看看你吃的西药说明书的毒理报告包括外用药和注射药.你就没那么无知无畏了.
我得P十几年,也曾把医生的话当圣旨,结果是从头皮上一个小米粒大的皮损变成红皮.这还仅是外用了大量激素药的后果.
劝你要慎重从事,就是希望你别在三十多岁时掉光牙,脱光发!
我在04年参加一次病友游香山活动,一位版主才四十岁刚爬一个小坡就大汗淋漓,一位版主三十来岁根本不敢爬,早早坐茶室等着了.他们当初也曾如你现在这样无畏过.
大家在这里就是希望我们付出的代价证明此路不通时,后来者不要重蹈覆辙!
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水精灵 发表于 2009-4-6 23:14:00 | 只看该作者
是问45楼.
更正一下
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椰子壳 发表于 2009-4-4 17:05:00 | 只看该作者
 引用楼主demark 在:http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.phpp=418920&posted=1#post418920  的一段话。。。。。             you have missed my point completely unfortunately. If you can read Chinese, please go to www.yxb365.com/bbs for my attitude toward Chinese Traditional Medicine. To be clear here, I think Chinese Traditional Medicine are completely nonsense, (how about that single broad brush), they are intentionally cheating or unwittingly ruin/messing with patients, far worse than western medicine.Western medicine however, is more advanced than Chinese traditional medicine, but still in stone age, not as advanced as they had painted. Therefore, the best attitude is to humble ourselves and admit we do not know too much about ourselves, about Psoriasis. We, as the patients, should collect large amount of data and research on those. Since we can not get answer about symptoms, side effects, natural patterns of psoriasis from those experts.I am so disappointed my point is not conveyed clear to people here. Some even think I am here to debate for Chinese traditional medicine. I have stated many times that I am only enduring, I use a little bit Dovonex, that's it. I would not recmmend actually I fiercely oppose people use Chinese herbal medicine to treat Psoriasis. What a joke. 各位从中可以了解一下该中国人demark在美国 银屑病网站上所表现的观点和立场。。。
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-4-5 8:27:52编辑过]
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水精灵 发表于 2009-4-4 17:51:00 | 只看该作者
感谢楼主提供的信息.
只有感同身受才会对西医西药有这样的认识!
我很庆幸我生长在中国,在中国得了这个病.看了有良知的王光超老先生发起为我们编辑的科普读物,小绿书.<银屑病患者必读>.不再相信西药,没走上西医治疗的不归路.
中医的思想和方法为我指出了康复的方向.民间秘方解除了我的大部分病痛.
我能从关节型,红皮型恢复与常人一般,真地很神奇.
相比美国病人我们多了选择的余地,我们更谨慎从事,这就为我们提高生存质量,减少西药毒付作用,保护我们受之于父母的肌体,赢得更长的生存时间.中医的各种方法提供给我们慢慢尝试的机会.这样比较我们真太幸运了!
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寻梦人 发表于 2009-4-5 10:27:00 | 只看该作者
难道只有西医治牛皮癣吗,难道中医在有些人眼里就那么一无是处吗?
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幸运得P 发表于 2009-4-5 11:35:00 | 只看该作者
或许是意识的超前与滞后问题。听说美国的享受意识都比较超前,你耗用了十几年甚至几十年青春年华,满身银屑、饱受精神折磨地煲中药,尽管换来了“根治”和长寿了又如何?你又曾否想过耗用了的青春年华的价值几何,那是不可逆转的啊!长寿固然好,但假若要你在青壮年时期牺牲十五年享乐,去换取老年时期三十年的享受,那么就值得去考虑一下了。那是两行牙齿吃排骨和两只牙齿含排骨的关系、是双脚跑步和三只脚撑着走路的关系啊!

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